It’s a two horse race now …

by / Tuesday, 19 July 2016 / Published in News

15 Responses to “It’s a two horse race now …”

  1. Catherine says : Reply

    Thank you for keeping us informed. These are unusual and constantly changing times.

  2. mark says : Reply

    I don’t know about you lot but I an CORB-IN!

  3. Aaron says : Reply

    Looking forward to the debate, despite not supporting Corbyn.

  4. Callum Cunningham says : Reply

    Owen the pharma spokesman? ahahahhahaha

    #ImWithCorbyn You know that guy we already elected as leader?

  5. Martin H says : Reply

    I’m looking forward to the debate. I don’t know much about Mr Smith, although some analysts suggest he has changed his beliefs more than once in the past depending on what seems most popular. Not that there’s anything necessarily wrong with that; it would distinguish him from our current leader whose views have been remarkably constant over the years (except on Europe).

    I’m unimpressed by the voting rules for this election, which have a suspicion of gerrymander about them; also the cancellation of party meetings seems designed to stifle debate. Still I’m sure we can rely on the likes of the Telegraph and the BBC to enlighten us on right choice with some unbiased reporting…

    • Bakary says : Reply

      I feel disappointed about the whole leadership saga especially when we should be enjoying good lead over Tories. I hold those MPs who and their leader been voted by the will of Labour supports taking part in such organised coup is far below my espectation.
      It looks like to me those votes that determine their status does no longer valued otherwise why not put up and get on the job at hand especially when your country needs you.

  6. Amy says : Reply

    I will be supporting Corbyn all the way regardless. Even though I have to pay £25 to do so.

  7. Mike Dewison says : Reply

    As a retired engineer, I have been a Trade Union member and have voted Labour all of my life but have only just joined the Labour Party, mainly due to controversy over Jeremy Corbin’s leadership. Now I find I cannot vote, although I have paid my membership. I know that this is politics but the maneuvering going on, especially the latest moves by the NEC, is on par with “Game of Thrones”, apart from that no one has died yet, but many have been stabbed in the back. I’m seriously wondering why I joined! `DISILLUSIONED`.

  8. Ray Harris says : Reply

    The candidates nominated by the PLP have been chosen presumably because they are not obvious Blairites, such as Cooper or Burnham. They obviously think the problem is the messenger, not the message! However they fail to see that it doesn’t overcome the disconnect between the policies pursued by the PLP and Labour members, supporters and voters. How do we win back Scotland, all those Labour voters in Labour heartlands who defected to UKIP and the fact that we lost the 2 previous general elections? It was under leadership Angela Eagle supported that all these things happened. Angela has said a lot about herself and her fitness for the role, but has said very little about issues such as the continued support for neoliberal economic policy, austerity or the shameful race to the bottom on Tory social policies on welfare the NHS, etc. I would have been more impressed if the PLP had engaged in a debate about how these things needed to change rather than attack and undermine from day one a leader they didn’t want. Until the PLP addresses these failures and learn the real lessons from the Brexit result (not Corbyn’s leadership) nothing will change. The issue which needs to be addressed is about policy, not personality. I do not believe that Corbyn personally is the answer to our woes, but his arguments have resonated with more Labour supporters and voters than the PLP will admit.

  9. Natasha says : Reply

    The more the Labour Party fight against Jeremy Corbyn the stronger and more supported he will become. It’s despicable the way he is being treated and equally outrageous is how we are being treated as members.
    Natasha

    • Paul McGeary says : Reply

      I agree Natasha the stifling of debate by closing down Branch and CLP meetings by the NEC is so contrary to Labour Party values.

      Why are they so frightened that members might talk to each other?

      They seem happy for only the right wing press to dictate the message. There are many other oppertunities to meet and discuss with members I was at the tolpuddle festival and there were thousands there all discussing the current situation.

  10. Neil Rolin says : Reply

    As someone who voted for Yvette Cooper 9 months ago I am beyond disappointed by this latest development. The PLP need to back our leader and realise that trotting out Tory lite policies isnt going to win any elections. If someone from the centre can come up with a strategy I will gladly support them. In the mean time at least we have a leader who stands for something.

  11. Natasha Weldon says : Reply

    Got to admit, I’m puzzled over certain factions within the PLP who seem intent on destroying any chance of a Labour government.
    Whether or not people think Jeremy is electable or not – and I’d suggest the huge groundswell in interest in both politics & the labour movement suggests he is – their attempts to destroy him are going little other that destroying the entire party. If people, according to the likes of Benn, Eagle, Smith et al, won’t vote for a principled man like Corbyn, then what on earth makes them belief they’ll vote for the people stabbing him in the back, front & sides.
    Fortunately I joined long enough ago to have a vote, and I’m voting Corbyn. Democracy must not be allowed to be undermined in this way.

  12. Bob McArdle says : Reply

    This all so bloody depressing. I have no idea what’s going on. I’ve just got to get all this off my chest just so i feel better at least and maybe someone in a response can clear it up for me without conjecture and slurs etc. It is now obvious to me that there is a concerted campaign by all of the media, exploited, supported and orchestrated by all the MPs who support the challenge, to undermine Corbyn. Just google Corbyn and see what comes up. It’s appalling and angers me so much. Even The Guardian is hammering him. Read the article by Andrew Rawnsley 24 July 2016. It’s breathtaking in its one-sided twisting of “facts’. It makes me fume. It all makes me fume!
    For a start Corbyn was elected under the rules of the PLP which the MPs or NEC, whoever it was, decided was the way to go. It was those that decided members should have a vote. It was those that decided people could register for a few quid to get a vote. It was the public that then saw a genuine left of centre candidate, Corbyn, and decided to join in their thousands to vote for a candidate with policies many had pined for for decades. I was one of them. I find it an insult that it is always portrayed that all those who registered to vote are the equivalent to the Bader-Meinhof group! We are not. We are bloody not. I am not a crazy who would throw bricks through a challengers window or hound people on social media with abuse. I am 60 years old, work in a bank in the City of London, and get exasperated at every general election where of course i would never vote for the Tories and automatically voted Labour but always yearned for a Labour party that would genuinely deal with inequality etc. With policies that are actually left of centre. Whatever that means. What I mean by that is, Corbyn is always known as “hard left Corbyn”. Based on what for Gods sake?! Because he doesn’t believe in Trident, spending 10s of billions on it – not wanting to have a weapon that could kill millions?! Is hard left wanting to ensure that we all are actually “in this together” – as opposed to most of us are in it together except for those few that can afford to employ accountants to fiddle their financial affairs – to ensure large companies pay their taxes that should be due. What is this government doing with regards to the Panama off shore fiddling that has been exposed? What do the MPs supporting the challenge propose to do about it? I’m guessing nothing – as usual. Probably lots of words but complete inaction. Well that is not just good enough anymore.
    Of course the Labour party has done many great things when in power – but it always seems to be just reversing the damage that the Tories had just inflicted on us all. Putting back the money into the NHS that the Tories had taken away, more money for local government, but never anything that really deals with the issues that would deal with inequality. To then whinge and complain when a leader is elected that they don’t like – well – its tough luck. Get over it and get on with it. This is what the members voted for, so just get on with it or get out.
    Now it is possible that Corbyn isn’t a good leader and doesn’t have the qualities a good leader needs. I am getting the feeling that this may be the case, but i don’t even know what i am basing this on! Basically what i read in the media. Which i don’t trust with regards to Corbyn. But lets say for now that Corbyn, well, we love his policies but, yeah, it’s a shame but he’s not the man to lead a political party. So then surely the answer is to make the challenge against Corbyns leadership with a candidate whose manifesto, most importantly of all, is to follow the same political agenda that Corbyn was elected to implement, the same political agenda that the members who joined in their droves joined to see implemented, in order to remove him. And has the leadership qualities required to get these policies fairly and squarely into the public eye. Not to whinge and whine to the media about Corbyn, his personality, his supporters.
    We will never know whether Corbyns policies appeal to the voting public at large to win a general election unless those policies get a chance to go before the electorate. My feeling is that with a great campaign it would be possible. With the policies being explained properly, with the so called left wing media helping to get these policies across to the general public.
    But on the flip side, what the hell happens if Corbyn does win?! He will be trying to run a party where his MPs do not support him. Yes, people can say well they can leave the party, but thats not ideal by any means. In practice, i am worried about what will happen.
    So I finish where i started – this is all so bloody depressing.

  13. Bob McArdle says : Reply

    http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/07/why-corbyn-so-terrifies-the-guardian/

    An interesting article I found today. Makes some interesting and potentially valid points I think.

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